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Monkey Wonder, make of Voodoo products in Second Life, has decided to start up a new blog to further lie about GreenZone on. Here is a quick link to it:
Monkeys laughable second life griefers blog
In this he makes some new unheard of claims of attacks, things that nobody has mentioned before. He also uses some discussion with Unya Tigerfish that are taken out of context with many lines missing. She also told me that these were done in IM's and he never asked for permission to share them. He also goes on to name a couple of names and then provide absolutely ZERO proof to back anything up with. So of course I decided to comment in his little blog post.
That's when he decided to take a page from the JLU handbook. All comments are moderated before being posted up and since it's been twenty four hours since I submitted mine I guess he decided that it won't be shown. So basically attacking people without giving them a chance to chime up in their defense. Yep, typical epeen powered internet bully right there. Oh by the way here is a screenshot of my awaiting approval notice I got when posting:
Oh and what did I say to him you may ask? Well I of course copied that as well because I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be put up.
"Our servers have been DOS attacked, and when traced back originate from inworld objects created by individuals belonging to Green Zone Users group."
"Several bots known to belong to a Green Zone member attempted to brute force their way into Voodoo Anti Bot group to troll in group chat."
"Several bots known to belong to a Green Zone member attempted to brute force their way into Voodoo Anti Bot group to troll in group chat."
...and screenshots of this and proof are where?
You know the stuff that we have in spades on the JLU whom you proclaim to be innocent of any wrong doings.
"Personal and often crude insults are made on an almost hourly basis, lies are fabricated to create fear, and one member "Cyborg Renfold" is known to release real life addresses of their targets. This is a privacy advocacy group?"
At least part of this is an outright lie. The GZ chat goes silent for days on end. Hourly basis my rear end. Finally you name a name on here and lets see the proof of your claims on that as well.
"Individuals hand out defamatory notecards which have been hand crafted by the founder Fart Admiral in a "Fill in the blanks" style, so that anyone can defame products in a coherent and well thought out way."
We warn people of products and objects that could be used for alternative motives. This includes anything that collects and stores IP address connected to an avatar name in an offsite third party database. The HUD is used in the same way.
I also how you completely avoided talking about the many voodoo supporters (many of which were throw away alts a week old or less) who used to pop up in the chat and start tossing accusations out. But I guess it's okay when YOUR supporters invade a group.
Okay here is Monkey Wonder's, the maker of voodoo products, latest twitter response to me.
JLU is a security business and doesn't stalk. Well in this case he is completely burying his head in the sand and ignoring any and all facts. They kept a massive wiki collecting people real life info, spent massive amounts of time scouring the web looking for anything and everything they could dig up even listening in on skype conversation and took notes on one persons child they could hear in the background. They continued to stalk a person over the internet long after they left Second Life and even called his family to make sure that he actually passed away. They called businesses and schools trying to get people expelled and fired. Their wiki was chock full of things like this. Complete with discussions on better ways to figure out a persons identity and figure out their alts. Friend or foe got listed in there.
So Monkey Wonder, YES they ARE stalkers. This is not even a question, it is a proven fact beyond any doubt at all. To claim otherwise is to simply admit you are either a liar or an idiot.
Green Zone stalks people all the time. Okay well then prove it. Come on there was tons of info pulled up on the JLU, you can find it on the SLUniverse forums and even some of it here on my blog. Not to mention at least one of the wiki dumps is floating around on pirate bay for download. Besides disagreeing with the way your system works and seeing how it can be exploited by somebody of lower morale's and then warning others about it what have we done? Let's see some actual proof. Wheel it on out here and lets take a look at it. I mean if it's on such a 'massive' scale then there must be tons of documentation to back it up right?
Or are you just a liar with a raging epeen hard on?
Yes the Voodoo works as it says it does but they don't tell you to be careful with your sim wording. I had 'student highschool' in the land description and I was banned. The funny part was, the sploder was running on the land for three weeks prior to the ban and we also had one of the Voodoo Support members attend the sim, assist with the land description wording and stayed an hour enjoying the sim. Now they have an issue with the wording???? Ridiculous!!
The item works as advertised but their full disclosure of the terms left alot to be desired. It worked the first day I placed it on my land. Then it stopped working. My manager and I ran around for 1/2 a day trying to figure out the problem. We finally were able to contact someone at support who was very ignorant and angry with us. Apparently you cannot have the word 'young' in the title or description of your land. I was banned from group without explanation or warning and my Sploder was removed from the server. Be careful of the words you use that may be offensive, because the creator of this item has rules of his own apart from those set by LL and their TOS. Who would have thought that 'young' would be an issue. I asked to be reinstated on the server as I have complied, and still nothing two days later. I ended up purchasing another type of Xploder, which is much more user friendly. I do agree that we need to be diligent in our pursuit of socially acceptable terminology and behaviour, but their self created terms should be clearly stated on their advertisement of the product before they arbitrarily take your money and slap your hand later. An IM to fix the issue could have and would have been sufficient. If I could have entered a rating of 0, I would have.
Yep, 1000L$ in total down the drain.
Bought the item here on the marketplace, didn't work, thought I bought a scam-item so I looked for the in-world store.
Notecard and landmark that came with this item here are bogus, leading to an empty parcel for sale by someone else.
Spent about 10 to 15 minutes asking around and searching before finding the actual in-world store.
Tried the update-board there, it said I didn't own one of their sploders... so I figured I had been scammed here on the marketplace.
Then I figured, I want a working Voodoo sploder, I've seen them work, so I've bought one in the in-world store for 500L$ - and... blammo, didn't work.
Went to the update-board again, again to be told that I didn't own one of their sploders.
Joined the group thinking I'd get support there, but decided to check their notices first.
And there was one, in Spanish, which I had to run through a lousy online translator to find out that it said "sorry, the sploder isn't working, others outside SL are working on it".
That notice was dated two weeks ago.
Here's an idea, for the creators/sellers:
When you know your item is broken... STOP SELLING IT UNTIL IT'S FIXED!
Or at least put a message out in front of your store and here on marketplace and on the sploder website that the item currently isn't working, not just in your group.
Many people buy without joining groups.
I'm down 1000L$ now, which I bought using real money, for something which isn't working.
That's 1000L$ which I bought with real money.
I wanted a good sploder to draw in people which would possibly generate income in L$ so I could pay the rent for my land and maybe have a few L$ pocketmoney, instead I'll now have to find a way to cut my losses without losing my land because I won't be able to buy more L$ in time... thanks a lot Voodoo, I hope you are actually refunding people who buy a broken product from you.
For all the trouble they cause, 1L$ would be too much. I wasted 500L$ on this piece of #(*@&!!
Wel i bought this system some weeks ago and you get no support at all,This creator just ignoring all your im´s and notecards.
I would say buyers better go look for another system this aint workin.
Dear members of the GZ group!
Recently I have revisited the Voodoo products, and to my positive surprise I noticed that Monkey Wonder has in fact adapted many privacy features and thereby relieved a lot of the concerns regarding privacy that were the reasons for this group to fight against the products.
Therefor, I personally contacted Monkey Wonder and we agreed that I should give him a list of the remaining few items that we think were still in violation of privacy. Were those addressed, we would be happy to clear Voodoo products from our "Bad" list. Our talk ended cordially in a truce.
HOWEVER!
Only a week after this talk, before I was finished compiling this list, members of the Greenzone group are receiving a blackmail: "leave GZ group within 12 hours or you, your items, and your creations will be blacklisted"
I personally feel betrayed! We as the GZ group have pride!
And we will not bow to blackmail!
The GZ group is no griefer group! Therefor, I would like to suggest that everyone of you who is subject to the blackmail of Monkey Wonder, AR him, and whoever is subject to his announced griefing in local chat, AR the person owning the offending device.
Monkey Wonder, consider our talks cancelled. You have shown that you are no man of honour, but instead a blackmailing criminal.
For GZ,
Unya Tigerfish
Dear Greenzone griefing group member,
Following mass defamation, griefing, propoganda, scamming and false abuse reports initiated by members of Greenzone griefing group recently on a scale never before seen in SL, Voodoo has taken the decision to protect our customers and other residents of Second Life from your activities.
Greenzone once had a legitimate purpose in Second Life, protecting the privacy of residents from systems such as Red Zone.
Red Zone is long gone, and Greenzone now operates more like the Anonymous hacking collective. The moderators have lost control, and the group is now a leaderless organisation that anyone with a grudge can join to attack others in the name of Greenzone.
Voodoo produces an extremely popular free Sploder tracking HUD which is owned by thousands and used everyday by many people, we have a user base of over 40,000 avatars. The next version of these HUDs, to be released imminently, will announce any nearby Greenzone griefers in local chat by name, along with any land owned by these griefers and any objects created by them. We believe your creations and land are not safe as you are a member of a group well known for griefing.
We do however understand that there is a minority of legitimate business owners currently in the griefing group, who joined long before Greenzone was hijacked by trouble makers. Due to this, we are allowing 12 hours for you to leave the group and avoid any damage to your business.
Voodoo has been at the forefront of SL security for many years and we take it and peoples privacy very seriously.
We do not wish to become ememies of any group, but we simply cannot tolerate people who choose to attack or scam others.
Thank you for your understanding and please make the right decision.
Monkey Wonder
Owner of Voodoo SL
